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The three of us are finally back together! We discuss how you can continue your education while pastoring a church. Do pastors really need an M.Div.? Is doctoral work worth it? We share our wounds and our victories in trying to get a degree while pastoring a church.

This episode is brought to you by Ministry Grid and Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.

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